Whitmer vetoed HB 4837, HB 4838, HB 4528 and HB 4492.
Whitmer vetoed HB 4837, HB 4838, HB 4528 and HB 4492.
In the wake of the 2020 election and the assertions by Republicans there was widespread voter fraud and that the election was stolen from Donald Trump, Michigan Republican legislators put together several bills of which four reached the governor’s office yesterday and which she has subsequently vetoed
Let’s look at each of these in turn.
HB4837
this directs the Secretary of State to the establishment of a statewide qualified voter file. It also directs the state to use the Social Security database of dead people to ensure that no voters are on the rolls that shouldn’t be who may have passed away. Historically,however, we know that this has often led to duplicate names which get removed and then the voter must fight to get back on the rolls. There are almost no instances of people voting in place of a dead person and the one that I do recall in Michigan in 2020 was a Republican who used his wife’s ballot. But using dead people’s ballots to try to swing an election? You’d have to have a massive amount of ballots! This is a solution in search of a problem. The bill also requires the Secretary of State to develop an inactive voter list which would include anybody who hasn’t voted for six consecutive years. The ridiculous aspect of it is that the Secretary of State supposed to keep this inactive voter registration list, but it’s completely moot point if the voter actually goes and votes.
HP 4838
this bill calls for the voting machines to not be connected to the Internet and that qualified voter files should not be accessible except for by a certain number of people. The bill calls for utilizing paper ballots for tabulating purposes providing voting and secrecy and permitting voters to vote for all eligible offices that they are allowed to vote for and
it also would kick out a ballot if there’s errors on the ballot. All of these things already exist and are already being utilized. Further, It wants the voting machines to be rendered inoperable if the machine reveals the results of the vote before the close of the polls but the machines we have don’t do that.
HP 4528
This bill might have actually been a good idea it requires training for election challengers and poll watchers which we can see from the way the Republicans acted in the last election they had no clue about the processes for how the ballots are tabulated and communication to the central database is done once the polls close.
HP 4492
This particular bill is a little bit more insidious. It allows local election officials to designate where and where not a polling place can be held. They could put it in a gated community, but they could deny it to an apartment complex. Anyone that doesn’t think that the designation of where a voting location should be is it going to be influenced by the political leanings of some election clerks hasn’t been watching the news over the last two years.
Whitmer vetoed HB 4837, HB 4838, HB 4528 and HB 4492.
In the wake of the 2020 election and the assertions by Republicans there was widespread voter fraud and that the election was stolen from Donald Trump, Michigan Republican legislators put together several bills of which four reached the governor’s office yesterday and which she has subsequently vetoed
Let’s look at each of these in turn.
HB4837
this directs the Secretary of State to the establishment of a statewide qualified voter file. It also directs the state to use the Social Security database of dead people to ensure that no voters are on the rolls that shouldn’t be who may have passed away. Historically,however, we know that this has often led to duplicate names which get removed and then the voter must fight to get back on the rolls. There are almost no instances of people voting in place of a dead person and the one that I do recall in Michigan in 2020 was a Republican who used his wife’s ballot. But using dead people’s ballots to try to swing an election? You’d have to have a massive amount of ballots! This is a solution in search of a problem. The bill also requires the Secretary of State to develop an inactive voter list which would include anybody who hasn’t voted for six consecutive years. The ridiculous aspect of it is that the Secretary of State supposed to keep this inactive voter registration list, but it’s completely moot point if the voter actually goes and votes.
HP 4838
this bill calls for the voting machines to not be connected to the Internet and that qualified voter files should not be accessible except for by a certain number of people. The bill calls for utilizing paper ballots for tabulating purposes providing voting and secrecy and permitting voters to vote for all eligible offices that they are allowed to vote for and
it also would kick out a ballot if there’s errors on the ballot. All of these things already exist and are already being utilized. Further, It wants the voting machines to be rendered inoperable if the machine reveals the results of the vote before the close of the polls but the machines we have don’t do that.
HP 4528
This bill might have actually been a good idea it requires training for election challengers and poll watchers which we can see from the way the Republicans acted in the last election they had no clue about the processes for how the ballots are tabulated and communication to the central database is done once the polls close.
HP 4492
This particular bill is a little bit more insidious. It allows local election officials to designate where and where not a polling place can be held. They could put it in a gated community, but they could deny it to an apartment complex. Anyone that doesn’t think that the designation of where a voting location should be is it going to be influenced by the political leanings of some election clerks hasn’t been watching the news over the last two years.
http://legislature.mi.gov/documents/2021-2022/billenrolled/House/htm/2021-HNB-4837.htm
http://legislature.mi.gov/documents/2021-2022/billenrolled/House/htm/2021-HNB-4838.htm
http://legislature.mi.gov/documents/2021-2022/billenrolled/House/htm/2021-HNB-4528.htm
http://legislature.mi.gov/documents/2021-2022/billanalysis/House/pdf/2021-HLA-4492-26929EF2.pdf
Originally published at http://dennisbmurphy.blogspot.com.
